perhaps.

1) Exactly what devil do they worship, from which religion? The term devil worshiper is thrown all to loosely to individuals that seem to have a dark aspect or wear a baphomet/pentagram on their necklaces and people think they worship the devil. They believe this because of what Hollywood has portrayed the pentagram to be, and what the church has led the masses to believe. By even calling the term devil worshipers you show your ignorance of religious history and your willingness to believe even the most ludicrous ideas.

You question things like the Illuminati or world domination but yet fail to question your daily actions. Maybe you should start with the car you drive and the foods that is on your plate and realize those are the 2 most destructive things on earth. Illuminates come in a very very very distant third.

Over 80% of the corn in the world is given to herd animals. These animals are the largest pollutants in the world as they are centered in large groups and their toxic waste is merely thrown downstream. This has caused to devastation of the eco-system much larger than global warming. If you want to go on about how your dinner plate is destroying the world more than global warming or the illuminati I would gladly come back and show you evidence needed.

2) Because you realize that people will call you lunatic you claim it is a conspiracy by world leaders so they don't get caught in their little plot. You claim it is a conspiracy because of it turns out your wrong you can still claim it is a conspiracy and call the ones who don't believe you crazy. What you fail to recognize the man force needed to dominate the world and the reasons for doing it.

Most of the proofs you do bring up highlights some apparently awkward circumstances but yet you fail to highlight the rest of that presidents/leaders career. You fail to recognize that the maximum they can stay on is for 8 years which is decided by a popular majority. You also fail to recognize that if such world leaders did exist and were plotting to control the world your post would be quickly deleted and you would be dead.

Such a huge force would be required to control all world leaders that we would of seen it everywhere in the news ages ago. If your argument to this is that they control the news, well there are many independent newspapers and television channels. So far the only television or newspapers to speak of world domination have been highly un-respected ones and ones that have been lacking publication so they usually throw a story like this to drive up sales.


So far, you have shown your ignorance on religion and claim that praying to a owl is a form of devil worship without clearly dictating what is devil worship and exactly how it differs from Christianity. If they are worshiping, a deity than it doesn’t matter if they are the god or devil. You then throw in words like good and evil which are two very black and white words which no one can really dictate exactly what they mean/are.

You have been blinded by Hollywood to believe Devil Worshipers worship the pentagram. You have been blinded by the church to believe that any non-Christian aspect of life is evil and bad. That any person that seems to have a dark aspect to them or is in touch with nature is evil and is practicing witchcraft. You have been led by others to believe in a world domination plot with little proof to back it up. You also say that you have not been subjected to believe anything and you are apparently the righteous one out of us because you know this godforsaken truth.

While you make a very insightful point about the responsibility of our life styles (cars and food mainly), I don't think you can dismiss "conspiracy theories" that easily. Yes, indeed, the term devil worshiper is vague at best, and could be dropped, or at least, explained.
But I do disagree with statements like :
-"if such world leaders did exist and were plotting to control the world your post would be quickly deleted and you would be dead" ; well obviously, if I was such a leader, I would just ignore this kind of posts. No one ever reads them, fewer believes them, they are sometimes insightful, but always poorly written, lack serious references, and can't make public opinion shift. I wouldn't pay ten bucks to delete such a post, and the cost of killing someone is way higher.
-"Such a huge force would be required to control all world leaders that we would of seen it everywhere in the news ages ago." I could argue that controling world leaders doesn't require a huge force, and I could also argue that a huge force isn't necessarily visible. And about controling the main news, well... How wide are Bilderberg conferences covered in mainstream news ? How much independent news sources are able to investigate a Bilderberg meeting and report it independently ? Sometimes, there is one. Most of the years, there is none. I'm not saying Bilderbergers control the world, but this convinces me that power can be concealed.

I'm not a world leader, but seeing how easy it is to control human thoughts, how powerful a link initiation into a secret society creates, how tempting world domination is, and how most information we get through lazy means just doesn't make any sense, I would rather say the structure of world power is more complex than we are told, than say conspiracy theories are created to boost sales.

i remember you, punk.

you said you were a satanist.

then in anotherthread you said you weren't -- you said you just said it to get a rise out of me.

maybe you should change your sign-on handle or something, you geeky intellectual toilet.


so that your future efforts to mess with my mind will be a tad more deceptive before i see through your mind games and your Christian bashing. Atheist or Satanist, edive, I don't really take you seriously anymore.

I mean...your old posts are right there? you must have thought i would forget...or in the classical fasion of teh deeply self deceiving you thought I would forget? Bohemian Grove HAPPENED,

All you're doing is collaborating with the coverup. (come on. say something witty in response!!)

Oh, yeah. i LIKE Christians.

doesn't that make you SICK?


you want to debate on theology...let's go to it.

world control is coming.how did the united states allow over 800'000 christians to be slaughtered in the 90's. o'yeah bill clinton was running the show. he stood by and didnt do anything.he wants to be a part of the un agenda where we all just get along.maybe he was to busy with monica,or funding korea and there nuclear weapons project, or selling our technoligy to china so there nukes can reach the usa or having lunch with yasser arafat or try to figure out what to do with binladdin when he WAS offered to us or closing down our air force base by NEW YORK or checking the test scores of pilots in training or signing a bill so info cant be shared by local law inforcmnt, fbi, cia or the nafta stuff (tell me that was good and didnt have anything to do with the world trade organization) or was signing us on to the world court at the un (bush did unsign that,thank GOD) or maybe he was to busy righting his speach for the bilderberg meeting. i myself think he was to busy with monica so lets just turn our cameras in that direction and amuse the general population with sex and politics.

There is no denying world leaders as significant as Bush must manipulate some kind of esoteric lore - that all American presidents thus far have been connected to at least one secret group in someway or another is clear evidence that such organizations exercise a certain influence.

However, we don't need dubious claims of occult practices and unfounded conspiracy theories to see that there is something ungodly about the way our world is governed. Whether the Bohemian Grove incident happened or not is of little importance in comparison to the bare facts of immoral economy and politics. Capitalist imperialism is founded on Third-World poverty (the abuse of underpaid workers) and the depletion of global natural resources. Whether world leaders are actively attempting to destroy the world for uncanny cultic reasons or simply out of their lack of management skills makes substantially little difference in the long run. In the long run, the world is just has polluted and people are just as miserable.

Doing the right thing for the wrong reasons has debatable moral value. But doing the wrong thing for whatever reasons - "bad" or "good" - is invariably wrong.